Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/11/1994 08:30 AM House FSH

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              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                             
                        February 11, 1994                                      
                            8:30 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Carl E. Moses, Chairman                                       
  Representative Harley Olberg, Vice Chairman                                  
  Representative Irene Nicholia                                                
  Representative Cliff Davidson                                                
  Representative Gail Phillips                                                 
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Overview:  Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute                                
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  KIM ELTON, Executive Director                                                
  Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute                                           
  1111 West 8th Street, Room 100                                               
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1895                                                   
  Phone:  465-5560                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a presentation of the Alaska                       
                       Seafood Marketing Institute                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-7, SIDE A                                                            
  Number 022                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. KIM ELTON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA SEAFOOD MARKETING                  
  INSTITUTE,  referred to a chart which was included in                        
  committee members' packets, and noted that last fiscal year                  
  the total budget for the Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute                  
  (ASMI) was a little over $14 million.  Slightly over                         
  two-thirds of that budget was dedicated to overseas                          
  marketing through a combination of federal funds and state                   
  cash match.  The industry contribution was about 22 percent                  
  of the total budget, with state dollars for domestic                         
  marketing totaling about nine percent.  This year the chart                  
  is dramatically different.  Industry funds are in the area                   
  of 47 percent of the total budget of almost $16 million.                     
  State funds are mostly cash match dollars for the federal                    
  grant monies, totaling about $1.1 million to secure the                      
  $7.25 million from the federal Market Promotional Program                    
  (MPP).  The amount of state dollars remaining in the                         
  domestic marketing program is .3 percent, or about $48,000.                  
                                                                               
  Number 226                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated there are three elements to the                             
  bureaucratic changes.  The first is a management report                      
  designed in 1992.  The second element is the passage of the                  
  one percent salmon harvesters assessment that added seven                    
  new fishermen to the board and added about $3.8 million to                   
  our domestic salmon marketing effort.  The third element was                 
  a facilitated retreat that the board of directors went                       
  through earlier this year.                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON addressed the management report.  It is called the                 
  Prior/Martech Report on ASMI and it recommended several                      
  things.  The first was a dramatic restructuring of the                       
  committee system that has driven a lot of the ASMI decisions                 
  on promotions, especially in the domestic market.  ASMI has                  
  a total of nine standing committees that consist entirely of                 
  industry members, either from the processing or marketing                    
  end to the fish harvester end.  The third recommendation                     
  concerned ASMI's advertising agency and their fees.                          
  Prior/Martech found that ASMI's agency fees were higher than                 
  the norm and recommended that ASMI retool their promotions                   
  to focus more on trade promotions rather than on consumer                    
  promotions.  They advocated that ASMI does not have a high                   
  enough level of funding to be effective in consumer                          
  marketing.  Another element they noted was the absurdity of                  
  the state's procurement system.                                              
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON continued by stating that Prior/Martech made other                 
  recommendations that he disagreed with and he thought the                    
  board would disagree with also.  One was to take 30 percent                  
  of ASMI's promotional funds and link with other generic                      
  seafood promoters.  This is a substantial amount of money.                   
  Prior/Martech also suggested the ASMI staff be centralized                   
  in Anchorage.  ASMI has a staff almost evenly split between                  
  Seattle and Juneau.  The Seattle staff is the marketing                      
  component and they bring ASMI closest to those markets they                  
  are most interested in.  Bringing the Seattle staff to                       
  Alaska would greatly increase ASMI's cost of doing business.                 
  Prior/Martech stated ASMI was operating at 65 percent                        
  efficiency, but that it could be largely attributed to some                  
  of the impediments presented by operating in the state                       
  government.  ASMI is attempting to perform a private sector                  
  job, which is marketing, within the structure of a                           
  government bureaucracy.                                                      
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON spoke to the second of the bureaucratic changes;                   
  that being the salmon harvester's assessment passed by the                   
  legislature last year.  It essentially replaced the $1.3                     
  million general fund monies with between $3-$4 million from                  
  the salmon harvester segment of the industry.  Part of that                  
  legislative package included the addition of seven new                       
  fishermen to the board.  The board is now a 25-member board                  
  comprised of 12 fishermen, 12 processors and one public                      
  member.  The immediate result has been very beneficial.                      
  There has been a dramatic increase in dialogue with fish                     
  harvesters.  The legislation also mandated the creation of a                 
  salmon marketing committee.  This is comprised of four                       
  fishermen and three processors who will make recommendations                 
  to the full board on how the fish harvester dollars are                      
  spent in the domestic market.  ASMI recently signed a                        
  contract with the University of Alaska and Seafare for a                     
  Salmon Information Service, as a part of the legislation.                    
                                                                               
  Number 250                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON addressed the final bureaucratic element, which                    
  was the facilitated retreat held in January.  The board                      
  hired a firm through the solicitation process.  The firm was                 
  Co-Development Associates.  They have facilitated for BP                     
  Alaska, Toyota, and the ANC in South Africa.  As a result of                 
  the Prior/Martech Management Study and of new board members,                 
  the retreat was designed to pull everyone together and get                   
  them going in the same direction.  The board created a                       
  working executive committee comprised of two fishermen, two                  
  processors, the public member of the board, and the chair of                 
  the board.  They focused on four core issues, and will make                  
  their recommendations to the full board at the end of March.                 
  The first recommendation was to define who the customer is;                  
  the second, define who the competition is; the third, define                 
  what quality level is attainable; and, the fourth, how to                    
  foster more industry cooperation.                                            
                                                                               
  Number 270                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON addressed some of the problems ASMI is facing.                     
  The state procurement contributes to inefficiency at ASMI.                   
  ASMI is unbundling a lot of the tasks the advertising agency                 
  used to do and because of that, ASMI is running into more                    
  and more into conflicts.  The bidding requirement from three                 
  sources is a problem, and going out for competitive bid is a                 
  waste of time and money for ASMI.  Getting sole source                       
  authority in four days is impossible and there are times                     
  when ASMI must move quickly to respond to an emergency                       
  situation.  Without state funding, ASMI would like more                      
  latitude.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 377                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS asked if ASMI has investigated the                   
  possibility of privatizing ASMI's division of sales to                       
  remove the restrictive requirements.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 383                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated that ASMI has considered this.  Up until                    
  three years ago, the ASMI sales staff had been operating                     
  apart from the state umbrella.  Three years ago, they were                   
  brought under the state umbrella, because it was an awkward                  
  position for the state to be in with the ASMI sales person                   
  being an employee of the advertising agency.   There was a                   
  perception of a conflict of interest.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 396                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS suggested there would be validity in                 
  placing the sales staff under a separate contract.                           
                                                                               
  Number 398                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated it is an obvious solution.  The easiest way                 
  to move would be for ASMI to draft its own procurement code,                 
  have it approved by the state and handle it within ASMI.                     
                                                                               
  Number 409                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated another problem facing ASMI is the                          
  shrinking portion of the budget supplied by the federal                      
  government.  ASMI's percent of these funds has increased,                    
  but the total amount of funds available have shrunk and it                   
  looks as though they will continue to shrink.                                
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON addressed another problem with the salmon                          
  harvester's assessment.  After reviewing all the                             
  information, the Department of Revenue should have collected                 
  $3.8 million; however, they only collected $2.8 million.                     
  ASMI has been working with the Department of Revenue in an                   
  attempt to reconcile the fish ticket information from the                    
  Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G) with the Department of                     
  Revenue.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 455                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON addressed the final problem ASMI is facing; the                    
  fiscal year carryover.  There will be FY 94 dollars ASMI                     
  will not be allowed to spend in FY 95, because of delays in                  
  collections of the harvester's assessment and appropriations                 
  from Revenue.  This is also true for the processor's                         
  assessment.  ASMI is working with the Office of Management                   
  and Budget (OMB) to solve this problem and is looking for                    
  authority to carryover program receipts from one fiscal year                 
  to another.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 491                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS congratulated ASMI for the recipes                   
  they have developed and stated it is a good public relations                 
  tool.                                                                        
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated the recipes help in marketing seafood,                      
  because consumers tend to shy away from the purchase of                      
  seafood when they are not familiar with it.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 514                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated he has felt a certain amount of frustration                 
  because the simplest way to define the "owner state" is the                  
  fisheries.  He said it is a common property resource owned                   
  by the state, managed by the state, enhanced by the state,                   
  and it's a resource that has fed the economy of the state                    
  for a long period of time.  There are a lot of people who                    
  are not protected from the booms and busts in the industry                   
  and many of these people will have to make the decision to                   
  stay or leave in the next few years.  The frustration felt                   
  is relative to the fact that the fishing industry has become                 
  the "forgotten industry."                                                    
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON commented, the state has done a very good job with                 
  the business plan for the fishing industry relative to                       
  investment, production, management, research, and marketing,                 
  but the state cannot walk away now.  The first portion of                    
  the business plan is investment.  The state has invested                     
  hundreds of millions of dollars in the fishing industry                      
  through hatcheries, port facilities, runways, and boat and                   
  permit loans.  The private sector has also invested in the                   
  fishing industry.  About five billion dollars has been                       
  invested in onshore plants, permits, boats, and equipment.                   
  The second element of the business plan is production.                       
  Alaska produces over five billion pounds of seafood protein                  
  a year.  This is more than half of what the entire United                    
  States produces.  The next portion of the business plan is                   
  management.   The state's professional managers at the                       
  Department of Fish & Game have managed a program that                        
  provides direct jobs for 19,000 people and indirect and                      
  induced jobs for another 16,000.  That's a total of 35,000                   
  people depending on the fishing industry, and management has                 
  done a good job in encouraging that kind of economic growth.                 
  The state has done very good, but we are slipping fast.                      
  Management at Fish & Game is being hurt by inflation and the                 
  investment in management is not going up as fast as                          
  inflation is.  The state needs to focus on management.  The                  
  forth element of the business plan is research.  In looking                  
  back, we can see dramatic events; the development of surimi                  
  being one.  Research is being hammered.  Research through                    
  ADF&G and other components including the University of                       
  Alaska or through the Alaska Fisheries and Development                       
  Foundation (AFDF) is severely limited.  The fifth element of                 
  the business plan is marketing.  The harvesters, processors                  
  and the federal government have made a financial commitment                  
  to marketing, but the state has withdrawn from the joint                     
  marketing effort.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 600                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE IRENE NICHOLIA asked Mr. Elton which section                  
  of the University will be performing the Salmon Information                  
  Service.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 604                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON replied it would be conducted through the                          
  Institute of Social and Economic Research (ISER) unit of the                 
  University of Alaska, Anchorage and they will subcontract                    
  with the Seafare Group, publishers of Seafood Leader, Simply                 
  Seafood and other publications.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 615                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDSON asked Mr. Elton if he would comment                  
  on how he saw the Individual Fishing Quota Program as it                     
  attempts to privatize the common property resources of the                   
  "owner state."  Representative Davidson spoke to the                         
  decimation of the research portion of the state effort and                   
  said, nothing is more illustrative than the example of                       
  dismantling a perfectly fine research effort built up over                   
  many years in Kodiak and we locate part of it away from                      
  their federal counterparts in Anchorage.                                     
                                                                               
  Number 632                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated he was hesitant to comment on quota systems                 
  and would not presume to know what is best from a management                 
  perspective.  The increased discussion of quota systems is                   
  indicative of the state of the industry.  As the industry                    
  declines, people start casting about for ways to stabilize                   
  the industry and the economic return.  There are market                      
  implications.                                                                
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-7, SIDE B                                                            
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON continued with a discussion of research and                        
  addressed the Fisheries Industry and Technology Center                       
  (FITC) enzyme research for arrowtooth flounder and its                       
  importance.  He also addressed marine mammal research and                    
  its importance to fisheries management.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 070                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON spoke to an item of debate both in the legislature                 
  and the administration; that is whether the fishing industry                 
  is paying its way.  He referenced a report from OMB which                    
  states that the fishing industry is not paying its way.  Mr.                 
  Elton noted that a portion of the Exxon Valdez litigation                    
  fees were "charged off" to the fishing industry.                             
                                                                               
  Number 107                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDSON asked Mr. Elton if OMB was guilty of                 
  using "sloppy" numbers, and whether it was true that                         
  livelihoods would suffer when we are forced to manage a                      
  resource conservatively, because of lack of good                             
  information?                                                                 
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON said the short answer is no.  He stated there is a                 
  problem across the spectrum.  It involves policy makers like                 
  legislators, Fish & Game, like himself, and in the                           
  Governor's office.  It involves a lack of knowledge and a                    
  lack of interest in the state's largest economic engine.                     
  There are a lot of assumptions and many things taken for                     
  granted.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 145                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS expressed her concern over the                       
  industry and wondered why we continue to spend millions of                   
  dollars and keep losing ground.  Representative Phillips                     
  asked Mr. Elton if he would consider writing an assessment                   
  when he's no longer in his position as Executive Director of                 
  ASMI.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 160                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON said he would be happy to write an analysis.  He                   
  stated he believes the state has to invest, but that it is                   
  not the only answer.  An economic return will follow, but,                   
  perhaps not immediately.  Private sector involvement is                      
  necessary, too.  Consumption demands have not met                            
  production.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 216                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE NICHOLIA asked Mr. Elton if any of the 12                     
  fishing members of the board were from the Yukon or                          
  Kuskokwim River?                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 218                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON answered that Mr. Nels Alexie is from the AYK                      
  region.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 227                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE MOSES asked when ASMI anticipated an answer                   
  from OMB on their carry forward funding issue.                               
                                                                               
  Number 230                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON replied ASMI sent over a memo at the end of last                   
  week and if they did not hear within the next several days,                  
  he would call OMB.  He stated that he did not think it would                 
  be a problem.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 236                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN MOSES asked if it could be solved through                           
  legislation if the answer was not forth coming.                              
                                                                               
  Number 238                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON stated he thought it could be done as a part of                    
  the budget packet.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 242                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIDSON referenced the recommendations of                    
  Governor Hickel's Salmon Task Force, and that the number one                 
  recommendation was to increase the domestic marketing                        
  effort, and asked Mr. Elton where that recommendation                        
  currently stands.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 258                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ELTON replied that the Salmon Strategy Task Force                        
  identified several areas and one was that $9-$10 million a                   
  year needed to be spent in the domestic market place to make                 
  the needle move at all.  They recommended a $10 million                      
  commitment.  When the Governor's office prepared the budget,                 
  all state monies were eliminated for domestic marketing.                     
  Mr. Stastny with OMB, reasoned that the fishing industry is                  
  a "mature" industry, and as such the components had to step                  
  in and take the place of the state.  ASMI argued that                        
  economic investment decisions should not be based on                         
  maturity.  Also, it was a rule that was not applied to all                   
  marketing programs (tourism).  All monies were replaced by                   
  industry monies.  Mr. Elton stated that there was a                          
  continuing role for the state as a joint partner in                          
  marketing.                                                                   
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  Chairman Moses adjourned the meeting at 9:47 a.m.                            

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